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He's read and enjoyed Proust, among others Larry Send a noteboard - 13/04/2010 07:37:39 PM
I also like to read stand-alone novels or shorter series. My point is that if the plot, the characters & the world interest me, I'm not scared of reading such a monster series, even if one has to deal with some slower parts, has to keep lots of plot-lines, characters, etc., in mind, and be rather patient for the resolutions.


I don't think "scared" would be the applicable word in talking about what he and perhaps others feel toward the series. Length is not a virtue, nor is it necessarily a vice. But making something lengthy just to cram in more elements of one's devised setting might appear to be quite pointless.

On the other hand, I would argue that simply the length of a series like WoT is wearing Roberts down, especially if he normally reads shorter works with less details, perhaps has a shorter attention span and might be easily bored (as you said, he e.g. probably didn't even realize what the damn point of the plot in TFoH is). This is supported by Roberts' "reviews", which in my view become more and more sketchy, mediocre and contain mistakes, probably because he is only able to read the books very superficially. If he would devote just a bit more time to really read the books, he might eventually see some worth in WoT (and e.g. maybe even get why the 5th book is called "The Fires of Heaven"..). Of course, Roberts actually doesn't want to give WoT this chance, so his "reviews" might be mildly amusing in some parts, but overall they are pointless.


Or maybe it's just that he's become bored with it all? And that the boredom has little to do with not grasping the main events but rather thinking that they are ultimately trivial? And it's ironic that you use "pointless" to describe his point of view (presumed), as "pointless" has been lobbed by many toward those überfans that spend so much time on the minutiae of the WoT series that others begin to wonder just what the point is in obsessing over trivial details of plot and character.
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

Je suis méchant.
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Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 19/03/2010 09:30:25 PM 13365 Views
A question for Larry - 19/03/2010 09:40:37 PM 3384 Views
Roberto Bolaño - 19/03/2010 11:09:57 PM 3313 Views
I completely agree with his review. - 19/03/2010 11:11:17 PM 3338 Views
Ouch! Somebody pull that guy off RJ! *NM* - 20/03/2010 03:47:07 AM 1667 Views
Can't say that I really disagree. - 20/03/2010 05:19:26 AM 2648 Views
My problem with the reviews: - 20/03/2010 06:29:08 AM 3341 Views
Hear Hear !!! ....................... = ........................ *NM* - 20/03/2010 06:37:11 AM 1596 Views
I agree - 20/03/2010 11:19:29 AM 2782 Views
You know what else I'm finding annoying? - 07/04/2010 07:29:37 AM 2672 Views
Fully Agree *NM* - 21/06/2010 12:41:05 AM 1450 Views
well I agree and disagree - 20/03/2010 06:51:29 AM 3022 Views
Re: well I agree and disagree - 20/03/2010 02:12:43 PM 2577 Views
I'd say just The Eye of the World - 20/03/2010 05:26:19 PM 2686 Views
Indeed - 21/03/2010 12:34:19 AM 2543 Views
These reviews are pathetic - 20/03/2010 12:52:22 PM 2557 Views
I'm amused by some of the responses - 20/03/2010 07:20:03 PM 3002 Views
+1 *NM* - 20/03/2010 10:48:14 PM 1794 Views
Are you suggesting that we are unqualified to disagree with him ? - 20/03/2010 11:21:44 PM 2696 Views
No, I said rather that it's ridiculous to make such disparaging comments about his takes - 20/03/2010 11:37:56 PM 2737 Views
I considered doing so - 21/03/2010 12:27:27 AM 2567 Views
I will reply to myself: What's the problem McFly , chicken ? - 21/03/2010 12:29:36 AM 2537 Views
My sister called me chicken once - 10/04/2010 01:18:31 AM 2603 Views
what's wrong runt... are you yellah? *NM* - 10/04/2010 10:40:16 AM 1535 Views
NICE! *NM* - 10/04/2010 02:19:44 PM 1389 Views
Re: I'm amused by some of the responses - 23/03/2010 04:50:42 PM 2626 Views
And I'm even more amused by this response - 24/03/2010 01:11:50 AM 2559 Views
Re: And I'm even more amused by this response - 24/03/2010 03:03:28 AM 2438 Views
Nah, TGS was the only serious review of the series I've done - 24/03/2010 04:31:28 AM 2523 Views
On a completely unrelated note... - 24/03/2010 06:15:25 AM 2492 Views
Ha! - 24/03/2010 06:34:48 AM 2473 Views
My congratulations then . *NM* - 24/03/2010 06:36:11 AM 2397 Views
You say it as if I had been condemned to hell! - 24/03/2010 07:13:45 AM 2307 Views
No. Well, maybe. - 24/03/2010 06:52:28 PM 2462 Views
! - 24/03/2010 06:54:34 PM 2496 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 22/03/2010 02:47:23 PM 2644 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 23/03/2010 01:53:16 PM 2558 Views
Wow, you guys have completely missed the point of the Wheel of Time series - 22/03/2010 05:28:07 PM 2612 Views
There's a point to it? - 22/03/2010 06:47:12 PM 2596 Views
Yes, RJ has explained it at least a few times and the main sequence of each book invokes his message *NM* - 24/03/2010 02:09:01 AM 1539 Views
You're not taking me seriously now, are you? - 24/03/2010 02:54:37 AM 2511 Views
I meant the reason why RJ wrote WoT in the first place - 24/03/2010 06:39:47 AM 2506 Views
I thought the point was to write about a bunch of stuff happening? - 09/04/2010 03:42:49 PM 2564 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 23/03/2010 04:54:38 PM 2554 Views
pfft wth-ever - 26/03/2010 12:35:53 AM 2376 Views
Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was - 26/03/2010 12:28:19 PM 2640 Views
bla bla bla - 29/03/2010 06:17:07 AM 2533 Views
Usually, it's spelled "blah" - 29/03/2010 07:03:51 AM 2482 Views
Wow. That post was more entertaining than Mr. Roberts' review. Thank you *NM* - 29/03/2010 08:23:41 AM 1710 Views
You must have low standards for entertainment - 29/03/2010 08:54:03 AM 2488 Views
Re: You must have low standards for entertainment - 29/03/2010 09:13:44 AM 2582 Views
I know you were, thus the at the least of my comment - 29/03/2010 09:19:30 AM 2404 Views
Unimpressed - 29/03/2010 10:50:07 PM 2881 Views
Thank you - 30/03/2010 12:35:39 AM 2323 Views
*Standing ovation for DomA* - 30/03/2010 07:36:59 AM 2588 Views
Yes. Also, Roberts is a wanker. *NM* - 05/04/2010 09:28:57 PM 1539 Views
Re: Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was - 29/03/2010 04:32:23 PM 2612 Views
Might want to re-read their Wikis again. - 29/03/2010 07:07:11 PM 2427 Views
Awards - 29/03/2010 07:42:03 PM 2385 Views
That link is out of date - 29/03/2010 07:54:56 PM 2373 Views
Re: That link is out of date - 29/03/2010 08:22:03 PM 2535 Views
This is a battle of win/lose? - 29/03/2010 08:47:54 PM 2406 Views
Re: This is a battle of win/lose? - 29/03/2010 09:03:07 PM 2456 Views
*considers employing the Chewbacca defense* - 29/03/2010 09:28:06 PM 2452 Views
Re: *considers employing the Chewbacca defense* - 29/03/2010 09:44:58 PM 2630 Views
The final point explains the "defense" - 30/03/2010 12:24:56 AM 2371 Views
Re: The final point explains the "defense" - 30/03/2010 01:33:04 PM 2308 Views
No, no, no - 30/03/2010 06:38:41 PM 2373 Views
Re: No, no, no - 30/03/2010 07:51:34 PM 2480 Views
Still continuing, huh? - 31/03/2010 02:10:13 AM 2423 Views
Re: Still continuing, huh? - 31/03/2010 03:56:57 PM 2395 Views
Those were polls - 31/03/2010 08:46:07 PM 2415 Views
Re: Those were polls - 05/04/2010 03:22:13 PM 2339 Views
Does it gives him right to insult me? - 13/04/2011 02:10:32 PM 2402 Views
I wouldn't know. Was he speaking directly to you? - 14/04/2011 11:28:16 PM 2512 Views
He's now reviewed the third book - 26/03/2010 12:27:16 PM 2634 Views
Well, this time I must disagree with him . - 29/03/2010 07:31:40 AM 2334 Views
I don't think he was claiming that RJ was alone in doing that - 29/03/2010 07:44:07 AM 2352 Views
Hah! - 29/03/2010 06:07:28 PM 2360 Views
Well... - 29/03/2010 06:52:10 PM 2283 Views
Differing perspectives, I guess. - 29/03/2010 07:58:13 PM 2470 Views
I suppose - 29/03/2010 08:50:43 PM 2386 Views
Re: I suppose - 30/03/2010 12:18:30 AM 2514 Views
True - 30/03/2010 12:23:28 AM 2372 Views
Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue? - 30/03/2010 12:52:01 AM 2354 Views
Re: Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue? - 30/03/2010 07:45:08 AM 2535 Views
But why only them? - 30/03/2010 08:07:00 AM 2438 Views
Re: But why only them? - 30/03/2010 03:56:54 PM 2407 Views
Re: But why only them? - 30/03/2010 08:29:37 PM 2515 Views
I really liked a lot of the minor characters in The Great Hunt. - 30/03/2010 12:49:03 AM 2389 Views
I barely thought twice about those, to be honest - 30/03/2010 06:39:55 PM 2425 Views
I can't wait what he's going to try to do with TFoH and beyond - 28/03/2010 08:18:59 PM 2507 Views
Glad you enjoyed it - 29/03/2010 09:33:43 PM 2355 Views
The Shadow Rising review - 02/04/2010 09:42:53 AM 2638 Views
I wonder if this borders on trolling - 02/04/2010 02:29:58 PM 11169 Views
You want complaining? You got it... - 02/04/2010 06:38:09 PM 2505 Views
That would be a mistake - 02/04/2010 09:16:25 PM 2651 Views
Re: That would be a mistake - 02/04/2010 10:28:56 PM 2397 Views
I agree, Roberts is more and more coming across to me as just bitter - 10/04/2010 01:24:52 AM 2508 Views
Little late to this one as well - 10/04/2010 11:12:04 AM 2534 Views
Perhaps you should have led with this bit - 10/04/2010 02:52:23 PM 2621 Views
Re: I wonder if this borders on trolling - 04/04/2010 09:16:22 AM 2501 Views
What review? I couldn't find one... - 02/04/2010 08:00:45 PM 2595 Views
Re: What review? I couldn't find one... - 02/04/2010 09:22:13 PM 2593 Views
See my comment below - 02/04/2010 09:32:54 PM 2668 Views
Re: See my comment below - 03/04/2010 09:31:22 AM 3001 Views
Sorry I'm late in responding, but I've been quite busy this week - 07/04/2010 09:45:48 PM 2854 Views
Yes, I can probably agree with what you say here. - 08/04/2010 12:29:16 AM 2315 Views
- 08/04/2010 12:32:53 AM 2454 Views
I agree completely. *NM* - 02/04/2010 09:53:44 PM 1431 Views
Speaking of irritation - 02/04/2010 10:50:04 PM 2556 Views
Commentary, then? - 02/04/2010 09:27:18 PM 2439 Views
Here's the thing... - 02/04/2010 10:11:18 PM 2383 Views
Re: Here's the thing... - 02/04/2010 10:31:56 PM 2235 Views
Re: Here's the thing... - 03/04/2010 01:34:05 AM 2287 Views
I somehow overlooked this last week, it seems - 10/04/2010 11:01:17 AM 2601 Views
Indeed - 02/04/2010 10:34:00 PM 2282 Views
Re: Commentary, then? - 05/04/2010 03:44:07 PM 2347 Views
for a man that bitterly complains about an author who is padding his work - 08/04/2010 09:41:07 PM 2573 Views
1400 words is long-winded? - 09/04/2010 10:07:41 AM 2611 Views
since you can sum up those 1400 words in about 25 yes that's longwinded - 09/04/2010 01:36:16 PM 2488 Views
Except I didn't really sum it up, as I left out quite a bit - 10/04/2010 11:15:42 AM 2509 Views
You are very defensive over this - 10/04/2010 01:54:15 PM 2309 Views
Nah, more of a devil's advocate than anything else - 12/04/2010 03:57:12 AM 2369 Views
Re: Nah, more of a devil's advocate than anything else - 12/04/2010 05:30:53 PM 2300 Views
You sound like a Goodkind webmaster from a couple of years ago - 12/04/2010 06:58:42 PM 2381 Views
You don't come across as a devil's advocate - 30/03/2011 03:07:32 PM 2417 Views
Well Larry I have started reading Gradsil by Adam Roberts - 07/04/2010 08:59:28 PM 2540 Views
I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 07/04/2010 09:50:39 PM 2429 Views
Re: I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 08/04/2010 01:06:20 PM 2292 Views
Which Invisible Man? - 09/04/2010 09:58:44 AM 2501 Views
Re: Which Invisible Man? - 09/04/2010 01:26:42 PM 2519 Views
I have a very different take on that book - 10/04/2010 11:17:13 AM 2380 Views
Re: I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 09/04/2010 01:45:44 PM 2414 Views
Hrmm... - 10/04/2010 11:19:01 AM 2247 Views
Re: Well Larry I have started reading Gradsil by Adam Roberts - 12/04/2010 05:37:36 PM 2480 Views
He brings up some interesting points, if in an unnecessarily rude manner - 08/04/2010 12:42:25 PM 2420 Views
To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 09/04/2010 10:05:49 AM 2445 Views
Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 09/04/2010 01:28:17 PM 2974 Views
Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 10/04/2010 11:40:22 AM 2451 Views
why are you so bothered by people being unimpressed with Roberts? - 10/04/2010 02:19:08 PM 2445 Views
I don't understand it either - 11/04/2010 12:44:25 PM 2426 Views
right? - 11/04/2010 02:13:00 PM 2453 Views
Nah - 12/04/2010 04:13:44 AM 2268 Views
And in vol. 5, Roberts discovers the horrors of the circus - 09/04/2010 09:57:03 AM 2422 Views
5 reviews without saying more than "I hate the series" - 09/04/2010 01:31:13 PM 2297 Views
Basically he just states the "nothing happens"-argument... - 09/04/2010 03:26:02 PM 2318 Views
Well, what was really resolved here? - 10/04/2010 11:25:25 AM 2404 Views
Well... - 12/04/2010 05:05:20 PM 2532 Views
well exactly - 12/04/2010 05:33:11 PM 2528 Views
So very little was resolved and much was set into motion, then? - 12/04/2010 06:55:45 PM 2498 Views
Yes... - 12/04/2010 10:51:08 PM 2217 Views
Ever read Umberto Eco's How To Travel with a Salmon? - 12/04/2010 11:07:19 PM 2569 Views
I guess... - 13/04/2010 10:03:03 AM 2555 Views
Sounds like you value prolixity for the sake of prolixity, to be honest - 13/04/2010 04:41:07 PM 3671 Views
Nah... - 13/04/2010 05:29:34 PM 2239 Views
He's read and enjoyed Proust, among others - 13/04/2010 07:37:39 PM 2356 Views
Ah, well... - 13/04/2010 09:45:45 PM 2270 Views
Dismissive, much? - 13/04/2010 10:52:30 PM 2477 Views
About that bifurcation... - 14/04/2010 02:02:15 AM 2435 Views
I'm rather moderate - 14/04/2010 10:11:30 AM 2341 Views
I'm just a liberation theologist at heart - 15/04/2010 01:51:16 PM 3232 Views
So, if you don't mind... - 13/04/2010 05:51:06 AM 2468 Views
That's fine with me - 13/04/2010 06:31:41 AM 2418 Views
I'm sorry, but he's totally right. "The Circus" made me put down this series for 5 YEARS. - 09/04/2010 03:38:16 PM 2440 Views
I didn't find it quite that bad, but... - 11/04/2010 08:27:52 AM 2425 Views
LoC represented a sharp drop in quality!!? - 19/05/2010 03:27:21 PM 2429 Views
And ignores everything else... - 09/04/2010 05:10:00 PM 2515 Views
Inchoatus went offline a couple of years ago - 10/04/2010 11:42:26 AM 3354 Views
This guy is going to get what he deserves... - 09/04/2010 10:26:14 PM 2393 Views
I'm waiting with bated breath for his CoT review *NM* - 10/04/2010 01:00:59 PM 1502 Views
Just wanted to point out that he is not reviewing the series. - 16/04/2010 04:04:49 PM 2331 Views
Lord of Chaos commentary - 16/04/2010 03:39:39 PM 2413 Views
He has reached - The Hump. - 16/04/2010 03:55:51 PM 2347 Views
Re: He has reached - The Hump. - 18/04/2010 08:08:59 AM 2799 Views
No no. It was Lord of Heaven! - 16/04/2010 05:51:11 PM 2289 Views
Yeah, I noticed that - 16/04/2010 11:16:26 PM 2222 Views
I would love the see him review Goodkind... - 16/04/2010 11:51:07 PM 2453 Views
Finally re-read that post - 20/04/2010 09:35:45 PM 2425 Views
The magic items are mostly irrelevant... - 21/04/2010 03:37:36 AM 2398 Views
A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn? - 23/04/2010 08:36:17 AM 2472 Views
Re: A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn? - 29/04/2010 06:02:28 PM 2419 Views
I disagree - 29/04/2010 09:34:49 PM 2245 Views
I agree. - 29/04/2010 09:45:29 PM 2458 Views
Took me a moment to realize with whom you were agreeing - 29/04/2010 10:19:05 PM 2382 Views
Well, I did mention the necklines get overdone... - 06/05/2010 06:17:46 PM 2710 Views
Well, there's now also the tea to comment about - 07/05/2010 11:29:03 AM 2479 Views
A bit of a stumble this week - 30/04/2010 01:53:31 PM 2501 Views
The Path of Daggers commentary - 07/05/2010 10:39:03 AM 2564 Views
You'd think a Brit would like the tea... *NM* - 11/05/2010 04:05:42 PM 1376 Views
Maybe he's just a contrarian? - 11/05/2010 07:55:43 PM 2308 Views
Winter's Heart - 21/05/2010 12:46:14 PM 2546 Views
To be fair - 21/05/2010 01:56:49 PM 2649 Views
I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read - 21/05/2010 04:49:31 PM 2405 Views
Re: I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read - 25/05/2010 05:05:09 PM 2547 Views
WH was my least favorite novel in the series, and that is saying a lot. - 28/05/2010 03:15:13 PM 2382 Views
I completely agree with his KoD post. Here is my favorite quote: - 28/05/2010 03:08:31 PM 2723 Views
CoT, you mean (link to actual post included) - 28/05/2010 04:56:10 PM 2525 Views
Yep, I meant COT. *NM* - 28/05/2010 07:02:48 PM 1365 Views
Knife of Dreams - 18/06/2010 09:07:27 AM 2439 Views
Re: Knife of Dreams - 19/06/2010 05:49:38 AM 2512 Views
Agree... - 19/06/2010 05:08:44 PM 2442 Views
Roberts reflects back on WoT 1-11, with answers to questions asked of him - 25/06/2010 12:51:29 PM 2531 Views
This guy should be burned at the stake - 25/06/2010 03:22:34 PM 10013 Views
Are you done making a fool out of yourself, Mark? - 26/06/2010 06:53:37 PM 2449 Views
Oh come on... - 26/06/2010 09:06:01 PM 2517 Views
Well, the burning at the stake was a bit much... - 26/06/2010 10:19:40 PM 2516 Views
Well, really! You brought the comment to his notice... - 26/06/2010 11:34:08 PM 2518 Views
And your point is...? - 27/06/2010 12:37:00 AM 2547 Views
Well... - 27/06/2010 05:38:12 AM 2479 Views
Indeed... I think it's rather clear that Larry's goal has been to cause trouble - 27/06/2010 10:57:36 AM 2664 Views
There is no "borderline" about it. - 28/03/2011 05:17:15 PM 2338 Views
Ridiculous - 27/06/2010 06:38:46 AM 2390 Views
I like his FAQ and his overall musings on its' popularity. - 29/06/2010 06:35:10 PM 2410 Views
One year later... - 27/03/2011 03:40:29 AM 2355 Views
Re: One year later... - 28/03/2011 05:03:32 PM 2591 Views
I see you subconsciously support critical takes. - 28/03/2011 11:41:48 PM 2582 Views
No I conciously support telling you and him that you are pathetic, arrogent, & jelous. *NM* - 30/03/2011 01:40:36 PM 1436 Views
Jealous? - 30/03/2011 05:20:32 PM 2375 Views
I agree, I didn't even notice it was an old post, definitely did not deserve to be revived. *NM* - 30/03/2011 02:41:12 PM 1352 Views
Seconded. - 30/03/2011 04:04:36 PM 2316 Views
Now I notice as well that this is a year old. You're very silly, Larry, very silly. *NM* - 30/03/2011 04:13:38 PM 1472 Views
Yep! - 30/03/2011 05:16:38 PM 2298 Views
Jeez Larry, you're starting to sound like a GRRM detractor. - 31/03/2011 03:01:38 PM 2482 Views
Nah, no detractor - 01/04/2011 03:00:41 PM 2483 Views
Could a thread be locked? - 31/03/2011 07:48:26 PM 2381 Views
Re: One year later... - 01/04/2011 02:55:02 AM 2760 Views
Yep - 01/04/2011 02:57:52 PM 2507 Views
He's not an "author", he's just a stupid troll, do not feed him *NM* - 30/03/2011 02:39:19 PM 1365 Views

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