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He's read and enjoyed Proust, among others Larry Send a noteboard - 13/04/2010 07:37:39 PM
I also like to read stand-alone novels or shorter series. My point is that if the plot, the characters & the world interest me, I'm not scared of reading such a monster series, even if one has to deal with some slower parts, has to keep lots of plot-lines, characters, etc., in mind, and be rather patient for the resolutions.


I don't think "scared" would be the applicable word in talking about what he and perhaps others feel toward the series. Length is not a virtue, nor is it necessarily a vice. But making something lengthy just to cram in more elements of one's devised setting might appear to be quite pointless.

On the other hand, I would argue that simply the length of a series like WoT is wearing Roberts down, especially if he normally reads shorter works with less details, perhaps has a shorter attention span and might be easily bored (as you said, he e.g. probably didn't even realize what the damn point of the plot in TFoH is). This is supported by Roberts' "reviews", which in my view become more and more sketchy, mediocre and contain mistakes, probably because he is only able to read the books very superficially. If he would devote just a bit more time to really read the books, he might eventually see some worth in WoT (and e.g. maybe even get why the 5th book is called "The Fires of Heaven"..). Of course, Roberts actually doesn't want to give WoT this chance, so his "reviews" might be mildly amusing in some parts, but overall they are pointless.


Or maybe it's just that he's become bored with it all? And that the boredom has little to do with not grasping the main events but rather thinking that they are ultimately trivial? And it's ironic that you use "pointless" to describe his point of view (presumed), as "pointless" has been lobbed by many toward those überfans that spend so much time on the minutiae of the WoT series that others begin to wonder just what the point is in obsessing over trivial details of plot and character.
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

Je suis méchant.
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Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 19/03/2010 09:30:25 PM 10144 Views
A question for Larry - 19/03/2010 09:40:37 PM 2146 Views
Roberto Bolaño - 19/03/2010 11:09:57 PM 1901 Views
I completely agree with his review. - 19/03/2010 11:11:17 PM 2094 Views
Ouch! Somebody pull that guy off RJ! *NM* - 20/03/2010 03:47:07 AM 955 Views
Can't say that I really disagree. - 20/03/2010 05:19:26 AM 1458 Views
My problem with the reviews: - 20/03/2010 06:29:08 AM 2006 Views
Hear Hear !!! ....................... = ........................ *NM* - 20/03/2010 06:37:11 AM 915 Views
I agree - 20/03/2010 11:19:29 AM 1550 Views
You know what else I'm finding annoying? - 07/04/2010 07:29:37 AM 1476 Views
Fully Agree *NM* - 21/06/2010 12:41:05 AM 808 Views
well I agree and disagree - 20/03/2010 06:51:29 AM 1830 Views
Re: well I agree and disagree - 20/03/2010 02:12:43 PM 1365 Views
I'd say just The Eye of the World - 20/03/2010 05:26:19 PM 1362 Views
Indeed - 21/03/2010 12:34:19 AM 1377 Views
These reviews are pathetic - 20/03/2010 12:52:22 PM 1357 Views
I'm amused by some of the responses - 20/03/2010 07:20:03 PM 1716 Views
+1 *NM* - 20/03/2010 10:48:14 PM 915 Views
Are you suggesting that we are unqualified to disagree with him ? - 20/03/2010 11:21:44 PM 1527 Views
No, I said rather that it's ridiculous to make such disparaging comments about his takes - 20/03/2010 11:37:56 PM 1566 Views
I considered doing so - 21/03/2010 12:27:27 AM 1351 Views
I will reply to myself: What's the problem McFly , chicken ? - 21/03/2010 12:29:36 AM 1326 Views
My sister called me chicken once - 10/04/2010 01:18:31 AM 1346 Views
what's wrong runt... are you yellah? *NM* - 10/04/2010 10:40:16 AM 895 Views
NICE! *NM* - 10/04/2010 02:19:44 PM 766 Views
Re: I'm amused by some of the responses - 23/03/2010 04:50:42 PM 1438 Views
And I'm even more amused by this response - 24/03/2010 01:11:50 AM 1377 Views
Re: And I'm even more amused by this response - 24/03/2010 03:03:28 AM 1243 Views
Nah, TGS was the only serious review of the series I've done - 24/03/2010 04:31:28 AM 1294 Views
On a completely unrelated note... - 24/03/2010 06:15:25 AM 1166 Views
Ha! - 24/03/2010 06:34:48 AM 1305 Views
My congratulations then . *NM* - 24/03/2010 06:36:11 AM 1200 Views
You say it as if I had been condemned to hell! - 24/03/2010 07:13:45 AM 1113 Views
No. Well, maybe. - 24/03/2010 06:52:28 PM 1222 Views
! - 24/03/2010 06:54:34 PM 1267 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 22/03/2010 02:47:23 PM 1339 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 23/03/2010 01:53:16 PM 1350 Views
Wow, you guys have completely missed the point of the Wheel of Time series - 22/03/2010 05:28:07 PM 1383 Views
There's a point to it? - 22/03/2010 06:47:12 PM 1378 Views
I thought the point was to write about a bunch of stuff happening? - 09/04/2010 03:42:49 PM 1378 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 23/03/2010 04:54:38 PM 1304 Views
pfft wth-ever - 26/03/2010 12:35:53 AM 1194 Views
Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was - 26/03/2010 12:28:19 PM 1432 Views
bla bla bla - 29/03/2010 06:17:07 AM 1284 Views
Usually, it's spelled "blah" - 29/03/2010 07:03:51 AM 1297 Views
Wow. That post was more entertaining than Mr. Roberts' review. Thank you *NM* - 29/03/2010 08:23:41 AM 1093 Views
You must have low standards for entertainment - 29/03/2010 08:54:03 AM 1269 Views
Re: You must have low standards for entertainment - 29/03/2010 09:13:44 AM 1372 Views
I know you were, thus the at the least of my comment - 29/03/2010 09:19:30 AM 1247 Views
Unimpressed - 29/03/2010 10:50:07 PM 1613 Views
Thank you - 30/03/2010 12:35:39 AM 1180 Views
*Standing ovation for DomA* - 30/03/2010 07:36:59 AM 1389 Views
Yes. Also, Roberts is a wanker. *NM* - 05/04/2010 09:28:57 PM 923 Views
Re: Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was - 29/03/2010 04:32:23 PM 1371 Views
Might want to re-read their Wikis again. - 29/03/2010 07:07:11 PM 1251 Views
Awards - 29/03/2010 07:42:03 PM 1242 Views
That link is out of date - 29/03/2010 07:54:56 PM 1208 Views
Re: That link is out of date - 29/03/2010 08:22:03 PM 1343 Views
This is a battle of win/lose? - 29/03/2010 08:47:54 PM 1267 Views
Re: This is a battle of win/lose? - 29/03/2010 09:03:07 PM 1319 Views
*considers employing the Chewbacca defense* - 29/03/2010 09:28:06 PM 1299 Views
Re: *considers employing the Chewbacca defense* - 29/03/2010 09:44:58 PM 1348 Views
The final point explains the "defense" - 30/03/2010 12:24:56 AM 1179 Views
Re: The final point explains the "defense" - 30/03/2010 01:33:04 PM 1193 Views
No, no, no - 30/03/2010 06:38:41 PM 1247 Views
Re: No, no, no - 30/03/2010 07:51:34 PM 1295 Views
Still continuing, huh? - 31/03/2010 02:10:13 AM 1292 Views
Re: Still continuing, huh? - 31/03/2010 03:56:57 PM 1210 Views
Those were polls - 31/03/2010 08:46:07 PM 1243 Views
Re: Those were polls - 05/04/2010 03:22:13 PM 1199 Views
Does it gives him right to insult me? - 13/04/2011 02:10:32 PM 1197 Views
I wouldn't know. Was he speaking directly to you? - 14/04/2011 11:28:16 PM 1344 Views
He's now reviewed the third book - 26/03/2010 12:27:16 PM 1417 Views
Well, this time I must disagree with him . - 29/03/2010 07:31:40 AM 1237 Views
I don't think he was claiming that RJ was alone in doing that - 29/03/2010 07:44:07 AM 1208 Views
Hah! - 29/03/2010 06:07:28 PM 1210 Views
Well... - 29/03/2010 06:52:10 PM 1197 Views
Differing perspectives, I guess. - 29/03/2010 07:58:13 PM 1272 Views
I suppose - 29/03/2010 08:50:43 PM 1210 Views
Re: I suppose - 30/03/2010 12:18:30 AM 1361 Views
True - 30/03/2010 12:23:28 AM 1210 Views
Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue? - 30/03/2010 12:52:01 AM 1122 Views
Re: Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue? - 30/03/2010 07:45:08 AM 1249 Views
But why only them? - 30/03/2010 08:07:00 AM 1274 Views
Re: But why only them? - 30/03/2010 03:56:54 PM 1228 Views
Re: But why only them? - 30/03/2010 08:29:37 PM 1315 Views
I really liked a lot of the minor characters in The Great Hunt. - 30/03/2010 12:49:03 AM 1283 Views
I barely thought twice about those, to be honest - 30/03/2010 06:39:55 PM 1269 Views
I can't wait what he's going to try to do with TFoH and beyond - 28/03/2010 08:18:59 PM 1311 Views
Glad you enjoyed it - 29/03/2010 09:33:43 PM 1142 Views
The Shadow Rising review - 02/04/2010 09:42:53 AM 1403 Views
I wonder if this borders on trolling - 02/04/2010 02:29:58 PM 10017 Views
You want complaining? You got it... - 02/04/2010 06:38:09 PM 1311 Views
That would be a mistake - 02/04/2010 09:16:25 PM 1472 Views
Re: That would be a mistake - 02/04/2010 10:28:56 PM 1195 Views
I agree, Roberts is more and more coming across to me as just bitter - 10/04/2010 01:24:52 AM 1337 Views
Little late to this one as well - 10/04/2010 11:12:04 AM 1379 Views
Perhaps you should have led with this bit - 10/04/2010 02:52:23 PM 1425 Views
Re: I wonder if this borders on trolling - 04/04/2010 09:16:22 AM 1275 Views
What review? I couldn't find one... - 02/04/2010 08:00:45 PM 1465 Views
Re: What review? I couldn't find one... - 02/04/2010 09:22:13 PM 1433 Views
See my comment below - 02/04/2010 09:32:54 PM 1422 Views
Re: See my comment below - 03/04/2010 09:31:22 AM 1850 Views
Sorry I'm late in responding, but I've been quite busy this week - 07/04/2010 09:45:48 PM 1658 Views
Yes, I can probably agree with what you say here. - 08/04/2010 12:29:16 AM 1153 Views
- 08/04/2010 12:32:53 AM 1241 Views
I agree completely. *NM* - 02/04/2010 09:53:44 PM 811 Views
Speaking of irritation - 02/04/2010 10:50:04 PM 1414 Views
Commentary, then? - 02/04/2010 09:27:18 PM 1235 Views
Here's the thing... - 02/04/2010 10:11:18 PM 1248 Views
Re: Here's the thing... - 02/04/2010 10:31:56 PM 1133 Views
Re: Here's the thing... - 03/04/2010 01:34:05 AM 1160 Views
I somehow overlooked this last week, it seems - 10/04/2010 11:01:17 AM 1447 Views
Indeed - 02/04/2010 10:34:00 PM 1116 Views
Re: Commentary, then? - 05/04/2010 03:44:07 PM 1223 Views
for a man that bitterly complains about an author who is padding his work - 08/04/2010 09:41:07 PM 1372 Views
1400 words is long-winded? - 09/04/2010 10:07:41 AM 1412 Views
since you can sum up those 1400 words in about 25 yes that's longwinded - 09/04/2010 01:36:16 PM 1277 Views
Except I didn't really sum it up, as I left out quite a bit - 10/04/2010 11:15:42 AM 1351 Views
You are very defensive over this - 10/04/2010 01:54:15 PM 1126 Views
Nah, more of a devil's advocate than anything else - 12/04/2010 03:57:12 AM 1209 Views
Re: Nah, more of a devil's advocate than anything else - 12/04/2010 05:30:53 PM 1129 Views
You sound like a Goodkind webmaster from a couple of years ago - 12/04/2010 06:58:42 PM 1207 Views
You don't come across as a devil's advocate - 30/03/2011 03:07:32 PM 1158 Views
Well Larry I have started reading Gradsil by Adam Roberts - 07/04/2010 08:59:28 PM 1324 Views
I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 07/04/2010 09:50:39 PM 1250 Views
Re: I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 08/04/2010 01:06:20 PM 1118 Views
Which Invisible Man? - 09/04/2010 09:58:44 AM 1316 Views
Re: Which Invisible Man? - 09/04/2010 01:26:42 PM 1222 Views
I have a very different take on that book - 10/04/2010 11:17:13 AM 1207 Views
Re: I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 09/04/2010 01:45:44 PM 1267 Views
Hrmm... - 10/04/2010 11:19:01 AM 1085 Views
Re: Well Larry I have started reading Gradsil by Adam Roberts - 12/04/2010 05:37:36 PM 1299 Views
He brings up some interesting points, if in an unnecessarily rude manner - 08/04/2010 12:42:25 PM 1254 Views
To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 09/04/2010 10:05:49 AM 1271 Views
Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 09/04/2010 01:28:17 PM 1780 Views
Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 10/04/2010 11:40:22 AM 1190 Views
why are you so bothered by people being unimpressed with Roberts? - 10/04/2010 02:19:08 PM 1321 Views
I don't understand it either - 11/04/2010 12:44:25 PM 1281 Views
right? - 11/04/2010 02:13:00 PM 1288 Views
Nah - 12/04/2010 04:13:44 AM 1086 Views
And in vol. 5, Roberts discovers the horrors of the circus - 09/04/2010 09:57:03 AM 1223 Views
5 reviews without saying more than "I hate the series" - 09/04/2010 01:31:13 PM 1150 Views
Basically he just states the "nothing happens"-argument... - 09/04/2010 03:26:02 PM 1142 Views
Well, what was really resolved here? - 10/04/2010 11:25:25 AM 1147 Views
Well... - 12/04/2010 05:05:20 PM 1336 Views
well exactly - 12/04/2010 05:33:11 PM 1360 Views
So very little was resolved and much was set into motion, then? - 12/04/2010 06:55:45 PM 1311 Views
Yes... - 12/04/2010 10:51:08 PM 1100 Views
Ever read Umberto Eco's How To Travel with a Salmon? - 12/04/2010 11:07:19 PM 1310 Views
I guess... - 13/04/2010 10:03:03 AM 1354 Views
Sounds like you value prolixity for the sake of prolixity, to be honest - 13/04/2010 04:41:07 PM 2504 Views
Nah... - 13/04/2010 05:29:34 PM 1111 Views
He's read and enjoyed Proust, among others - 13/04/2010 07:37:39 PM 1157 Views
Ah, well... - 13/04/2010 09:45:45 PM 1131 Views
Dismissive, much? - 13/04/2010 10:52:30 PM 1271 Views
About that bifurcation... - 14/04/2010 02:02:15 AM 1243 Views
I'm rather moderate - 14/04/2010 10:11:30 AM 1153 Views
I'm just a liberation theologist at heart - 15/04/2010 01:51:16 PM 2081 Views
So, if you don't mind... - 13/04/2010 05:51:06 AM 1231 Views
That's fine with me - 13/04/2010 06:31:41 AM 1202 Views
I'm sorry, but he's totally right. "The Circus" made me put down this series for 5 YEARS. - 09/04/2010 03:38:16 PM 1231 Views
I didn't find it quite that bad, but... - 11/04/2010 08:27:52 AM 1126 Views
LoC represented a sharp drop in quality!!? - 19/05/2010 03:27:21 PM 1249 Views
And ignores everything else... - 09/04/2010 05:10:00 PM 1302 Views
Inchoatus went offline a couple of years ago - 10/04/2010 11:42:26 AM 2216 Views
This guy is going to get what he deserves... - 09/04/2010 10:26:14 PM 1209 Views
I'm waiting with bated breath for his CoT review *NM* - 10/04/2010 01:00:59 PM 896 Views
Just wanted to point out that he is not reviewing the series. - 16/04/2010 04:04:49 PM 1227 Views
Lord of Chaos commentary - 16/04/2010 03:39:39 PM 1244 Views
He has reached - The Hump. - 16/04/2010 03:55:51 PM 1198 Views
Re: He has reached - The Hump. - 18/04/2010 08:08:59 AM 1425 Views
No no. It was Lord of Heaven! - 16/04/2010 05:51:11 PM 1155 Views
Yeah, I noticed that - 16/04/2010 11:16:26 PM 1063 Views
I would love the see him review Goodkind... - 16/04/2010 11:51:07 PM 1247 Views
Finally re-read that post - 20/04/2010 09:35:45 PM 1204 Views
The magic items are mostly irrelevant... - 21/04/2010 03:37:36 AM 1215 Views
A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn? - 23/04/2010 08:36:17 AM 1315 Views
Re: A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn? - 29/04/2010 06:02:28 PM 1218 Views
I disagree - 29/04/2010 09:34:49 PM 1080 Views
I agree. - 29/04/2010 09:45:29 PM 1273 Views
Took me a moment to realize with whom you were agreeing - 29/04/2010 10:19:05 PM 1157 Views
Well, I did mention the necklines get overdone... - 06/05/2010 06:17:46 PM 1520 Views
Well, there's now also the tea to comment about - 07/05/2010 11:29:03 AM 1258 Views
A bit of a stumble this week - 30/04/2010 01:53:31 PM 1312 Views
The Path of Daggers commentary - 07/05/2010 10:39:03 AM 1295 Views
You'd think a Brit would like the tea... *NM* - 11/05/2010 04:05:42 PM 781 Views
Maybe he's just a contrarian? - 11/05/2010 07:55:43 PM 1136 Views
Winter's Heart - 21/05/2010 12:46:14 PM 1302 Views
To be fair - 21/05/2010 01:56:49 PM 1407 Views
I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read - 21/05/2010 04:49:31 PM 1194 Views
Re: I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read - 25/05/2010 05:05:09 PM 1383 Views
WH was my least favorite novel in the series, and that is saying a lot. - 28/05/2010 03:15:13 PM 1292 Views
I completely agree with his KoD post. Here is my favorite quote: - 28/05/2010 03:08:31 PM 1487 Views
CoT, you mean (link to actual post included) - 28/05/2010 04:56:10 PM 1313 Views
Yep, I meant COT. *NM* - 28/05/2010 07:02:48 PM 775 Views
Knife of Dreams - 18/06/2010 09:07:27 AM 1219 Views
Re: Knife of Dreams - 19/06/2010 05:49:38 AM 1282 Views
Agree... - 19/06/2010 05:08:44 PM 1277 Views
Roberts reflects back on WoT 1-11, with answers to questions asked of him - 25/06/2010 12:51:29 PM 1291 Views
This guy should be burned at the stake - 25/06/2010 03:22:34 PM 8702 Views
Are you done making a fool out of yourself, Mark? - 26/06/2010 06:53:37 PM 1242 Views
Oh come on... - 26/06/2010 09:06:01 PM 1364 Views
Well, the burning at the stake was a bit much... - 26/06/2010 10:19:40 PM 1359 Views
Well, really! You brought the comment to his notice... - 26/06/2010 11:34:08 PM 1316 Views
And your point is...? - 27/06/2010 12:37:00 AM 1394 Views
Well... - 27/06/2010 05:38:12 AM 1335 Views
Indeed... I think it's rather clear that Larry's goal has been to cause trouble - 27/06/2010 10:57:36 AM 1475 Views
There is no "borderline" about it. - 28/03/2011 05:17:15 PM 1214 Views
Ridiculous - 27/06/2010 06:38:46 AM 1244 Views
I like his FAQ and his overall musings on its' popularity. - 29/06/2010 06:35:10 PM 1314 Views
One year later... - 27/03/2011 03:40:29 AM 1237 Views
Re: One year later... - 28/03/2011 05:03:32 PM 1152 Views
I see you subconsciously support critical takes. - 28/03/2011 11:41:48 PM 1457 Views
No I conciously support telling you and him that you are pathetic, arrogent, & jelous. *NM* - 30/03/2011 01:40:36 PM 847 Views
Jealous? - 30/03/2011 05:20:32 PM 1205 Views
I agree, I didn't even notice it was an old post, definitely did not deserve to be revived. *NM* - 30/03/2011 02:41:12 PM 758 Views
Seconded. - 30/03/2011 04:04:36 PM 1114 Views
Now I notice as well that this is a year old. You're very silly, Larry, very silly. *NM* - 30/03/2011 04:13:38 PM 795 Views
Yep! - 30/03/2011 05:16:38 PM 1138 Views
Jeez Larry, you're starting to sound like a GRRM detractor. - 31/03/2011 03:01:38 PM 1253 Views
Nah, no detractor - 01/04/2011 03:00:41 PM 1355 Views
Could a thread be locked? - 31/03/2011 07:48:26 PM 1132 Views
Re: One year later... - 01/04/2011 02:55:02 AM 1413 Views
Yep - 01/04/2011 02:57:52 PM 1289 Views

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